Ivermectin to treat Mange

 

When I initially saw these red bumps appearing on my pet I thought  he possibly had an allergy to a food or something in his environment.  I took him to my trainer, and  she believed Baron was suffering from some sort of seasonal allergy and recommended a hydro-cortisone cream.  The cream just reduced the itching; the red bumps would appear to become more inflamed after the cortisone cream was applied yet he could sleep after a bit.  I finally took him to the vet after about two weeks and they diagnosed my 16 wk old pup with Demodex Mange.

  The vet perscribed Ivermectin (an  anti-parasitic  used sucessfully for mange on dogs, not FDA approved for mange in dogs) injection once every two weeks for 2 months.  This diagnosis and remedy suggested was quite scary considering the vet said that Ivermectin can kill a dog though quite rare.  It should be knMange on Baron's sideown that herding breeds are exceptionally sensitive to this product and should only be used as a last resort or not at all.  The vet stated I would continue this biweekly process until their were 2 negative skin scraping for the mites, usually for 2 months.  I thought this was the endall answer I was looking for and became quite hopeful, yet the ivermectin made absolutely no visual improvement in my pet over this time period so I began looking elsewhere.  I would recommend the use of this product if no topical mange applications are effective as long as it is prescribed by a knowledgeable vet.  Ivermectin didn’t work for my dog, but I have heard it has worked for many others.  The frequency of ivermectin application could possibly change effectiveness; my co-workers girlfriend (a vet) perscribes oral ivermectin daily.  Possibly the daily dose of oral overmectin is more effective than an injection once every 14 days.

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  1. My Doberman has had an ongoing case of demodectic mange since she was very young. At first it was diagnosed as a general pyoderma and antibiotics were prescribed. After a scraping was done and demodex was discovered, a second round of antibiotics and daily oral ivermectin was prescribed. After a second scrape, we are on the 3rd round of ivermectin. She has improved greatly. Even her hair has begun to grow back in. Each time that she broke out, it was after shots. The last time it was a 6 months bortadella to be able to put her in doggy daycare to play. I believe she has an inherited weak immune system that was overwhelmed by the number of vaccination viral loads that she was subjected to as a young pup. She also has the chin bumps which are a separate issue from the mange. It is being treated very successfully with “Bactroban” a mupirocin ointment that is good for the chin acne that dobermans are prone to. My dobe is now 16 months old and her condition poses a problem for us. Our dogs have always been kennelled when we travel abroad. I will have to see if the next vaccinations that have been delayed will cause a reoccurance of the mange when they are given. If they do, that means that I will never be able to put her in a kennel, doggy day care or have her around other dogs. No more vaccinations for her as I refuse to keep poisioning her with ivermectin,

  2. (My website needs updating with this latest information.) I have 11 cats that got mange from a stray I introduced into the household. I tried three courses of Ivermectin with only temporary success. I tried Sulfur/Lime dip, with limited success. What seems to help the most (requiring a knowledgeable homeopathic vet) is a homeopathic remedy (very specific to the particular animal), combined with immune boosting (4Life Feline Complete, in my case), and a lot of organic, 10- 15% fat (max) ground sirloin, mixed 1/2 and 1/2 with organic vegetable puree (steamed broccoli, organic carrot, and organic peas lightly steamed) given as long as the animal craves it. I am still fighting the mange to a certain extent, but most of the cats have significantly improved. I also clean their ears with olive oil-soaked QTips once a week or so, when I see black inside. Do you know whether or not the borax/hydrogen peroxide is safe to use on cats? The Earth website will not respond. Thanks so much.

    • Here’s what Earth Clinic website say about cats:

      01/16/2010: Martina from Burnaby, Bc, Canada replies: “I tried to use Ted’s Remedy on my cat but it was just too stressful to bathe her. I found an alternate route by upping her diet to the best organic cat food i could find (to up her immune system) and then I stirred in 1/4 tsp of brewer’s yeast to every meal. She ate it no problems. I kept her bed washed and sprayed with a tea tree oil concoction I make. It’s a travel size spritzer bottle of water with 8 drops or so of tea tree oil in it. The mites hate tea tree oil, as do ear mites (cured her of ear mites a few years previous with this after only one spray in each). After a couple of days, I noticed she was itching less and less and it finally stopped.”
      Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: “Deborah: The borax/peroxide remedy I have tested are safe for pets in general. If the condition is a mild one, applying a very wet towel should do it, at least for cats.”

    • I am about to embark on a trip for the borax, although i have a dog and a cat. I will let you know, and also, i have read both positive and negatives on the borax idea. I have a recipe for it too.

      Apparently this remedy works by mixing the two products the peroxide 1% solution is used as a vehicle to penetrate the skin (The Hydrogen Peroxide usually sold in stores is 3% so it should be diluted with 2 equal parts water.) The borax is used as the mite killer traveling to the areas in the epidermis where these mites harbor themselves. The mixture is a 1% solution of hydrogen peroxide with enough borax in it so that it is fully saturated (no longer absorbs the borax usually ( 1 cup borax 48 oz 1% hydrogen peroxide mixed for 10 min).

      You are instructed to wash your dog as regular and then while the dog is wet and clean, the solution you put into a bucket is lathered all over the body (mange doesnt always show where it is living.) The dog is then allowed to air dry with the solution never rinsed or toweled off the body. This results in a chalky like feel to the coat with some temporary discoloration. After I applied this solution for the first time it appeared to really disturb the mange, Baron had bumps with soft scabs all over his body. The solution appeared to do more work than anything else I had applied. I recommend to do this 2-4 times to see results. Make sure you have some type of soothing lotion to put on the skin due to the extreme drying nature of this remedy.
      The Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide didnt cure my dog yet he has improved on this treatment much more than any synthetic or expensive treatments. I almost forgot: This is a great remedy to try due to how cheap it is to try. About $2.00 to try it!

      • Sounds like too much Borax for your solution. Borax is a bit toxic and when I used it on my dogs, I didn’t know the measurements and used about as much Borax as you just described here (1 cup). That’s too much for the amount of hydrogen peroxide 15 ounces and 30 ounces of water, approximately 48 ounces total. I would reduce the amount of borax to one half of cup or even less. My dog got ill from this, as I was using too much borax at the time. And that was a very long time ago, before this blog even existed. It also turned my black dog’s hair RED. Lovely trying to explain to people what’s going on with my dog when he’s sporting a new do. Initial cost is about $8 for a box of borox and about $2 for a bottle of hydrogen peroxide. And then another $50 for them to go to the vet and see if the vet can help with this mess I got myself into. Well, anywhere from $50 to $350 depending on what the vet decides and you can afford. Even though Ted from Bangkok from the initial website (earth clinic mange treatment) I read about this, even though he treated his dog for demodectic mange (a cigar shaped mite), he said that it helps with sarcoptic mange (a mite that is completely different and presents itself differently) he said that it can be used for sarcoptic mange, it doesn’t really cure the dog. So, just be careful. Watch the dog for signs of lethargy, no appetite, etc. And not too often. I’m even thinking a half of cup is too much here; maybe a fourth of a cup.

      • I would be very happy and thankful if I can find a convincing reply to the use of this HP+Borak remedy. As my dog has this Demodex menge as seen at the vet’ws microscope. It is very slightly only aroud his eyes. I am giving Ivermectin 1.3 mg. orally since May 10th. Today is Sept.21st. So since about 4.5 months. It did not get worse but neither better and is there.
        Now I am most anxious to apply the HP+Borax bath as it is most harmful to the eyes in case a drop gets in. But the eyebrows and the eye lids have it. So what would you suggest?
        Thank you in advance.

  3. Hi, My 2 yr. black lab has demodectic mange, and I would like to treat him with Ivermectin.Can someone tell me if orally or injectible is the best solution.And, how often.I do have the correct dosage information per body weight.Just not sure how often.
    Thanks

    • I don’t know either, could I ask what you were told the correct dosage per body weight is? I have a 60lb dog that has mange and I can’t get any exacts. Thanks!

      • I’ve treated many dogs that come thru our shelter for demodex mange, as well as sarcoptic. Our vet prescribes .2cc per 10# of body weight once a day, every day for 60 day for demodex, or for sarcoptic one a day everyday for a month.

      • 1/10 of a cc for every two pounds of dog weight. this also takes care of worms and prevents heart worm. So. If your dog weights 60 lbs. 30 x 1/10. You must make sure you have the proper weight on the dog because too much can be lethal..

      • I neglected to mention it’s 0.27% ivomec solution. This is formulated for grower and feeder pigs. 1/10th of a cc for every 2lbs of dog weight.

    • The vet perscribed Ivermectin (an anti-parasitic used sucessfully for mange on dogs, not FDA approved for mange in dogs) injection once every two weeks for 2 months. This diagnosis and remedy suggested was quite scary considering the vet said that Ivermectin can kill a dog though quite rare. It should be knMange on Baron’s sideown that herding breeds are exceptionally sensitive to this product and should only be used as a last resort or not at all. The vet stated I would continue this biweekly process until their were 2 negative skin scraping for the mites, usually for 2 months. I thought this was the endall answer I was looking for and became quite hopeful, yet the ivermectin made absolutely no visual improvement in my pet over this time period so I began looking elsewhere. I would recommend the use of this product if no topical mange applications are effective as long as it is prescribed by a knowledgeable vet. Ivermectin didn’t work for my dog, but I have heard it has worked for many others. The frequency of ivermectin application could possibly change effectiveness; my co-workers girlfriend (a vet) perscribes oral ivermectin daily. Possibly the daily dose of oral overmectin is more effective than an injection once every 14 days.

  4. I agree with your thoughts here and I really love your blog! I’ve bookmarked it so that I can come back & read more in the future.

  5. I am currently treating our 10 year old golden retreiver with ivomectin on a daily basis. He developed demodectic mange at a rather advanced age. So far, so good. He has been on it almost 30 days. We started the doses small, and have increased them every 5 days. The hair that he lost has started to grow back. The old guy is hanging in there. We are in contact with our vet, and he is being watched closely. We have our recheck with the dermatologist in 10 days. Sometimes he seems a little sluggish, but I feel it is because of the hot summer weather. His appetite is super, as are all his body functions. It has made Alfred seem like himself again.

  6. We have a 5 month old golden retriever, Evey, who was a stray puppy. Upon having her for only 24 hours we realized she was ill. We took her to the vet somewhat knowing what it may be, parvo, and sure enough it was. We wanted to save this baby, so we treated her w/the home injections and by day 3 she was doing great! We took her back for a follow-up and she was playing and having fun. About a month after the parvo attack we noticed she had a spot above her eye and we thought it was a bruise, long story short, the spots began to spread to her lip and foot area. We took her to the vet yesterday and they said she had Dermadex Mange. Which is what through research on the web we thought it was, but wanted to make sure so we got the right treatment. It made sense since she had the parvo and the probable deminished immune system. The vet prescribed 30 days of oral .004 ml of ivermectin 1%. We started the treatment yesterday, and she actually shows as if it made a difference in one day, her spot above the eyebrow is lighter. My question is, is it safe to give her the Ivermectin? Are there any dangerous side affects we should be aware of. Our vet did not say there were any negative side affects but to bring her back in 30 days. From my review of postings on this med, it sounds like it is very dangerous if not administered correctly. And seems to be more for ringworm. Am I just misinterpreting the info on the web? I trust our vet, and think I should call and find out my worries are not called for. But there are times when you have to step out of the box and ask others. We all love this puppy/baby so much, but why isn’t Ivermectin noted as a normal or usual med for this condition? She just had her second dose tonight, and she let us know with her facial expression, it don’t taste good. :) Any feedback would be appreciated.

  7. I have a rescue/foster dog that has mange as well. I need to know if anyone can help with with the dosage of Ivermectin and how often to give him to treat it? He is almost 60 lbs a hound and boxer mix we think. He was taken to the shelter after being born in the wild so he was completely feral when I got him. He is socialized and domesticated now but we are having to deal with the mange now. Please anyone who has had positive experiences with using this for treatment can you give me some advice? Thank you!!!

    Nova

    • It is .1ml or .1cc for every 10 pound of dog body weight

    • It is .1ml or .1cc for every 10 pound of dog bodyweight. Hope this helps you and I don’t know if you know by now but that’s what it is have a good day

      • Be careful with small animals that weigh only 10 pounds.. The dosage would be one-tenth of a millimeter (or one-tenth of a cc) for a 10 pound cat or dog. Make sure the dog is not a herding breed, like collie, because they have some kind of genetic defect where the med will cross the blood brain barrier and cannot escape. There is a test you can get at the vet to determine if your herding bread dog has this defect.
        A 30 pound dog would get three-tenths of a cc.
        A 50 pound dog would get a half of a cc.
        You have to use a needle and syringe to remove from the vile of ivomec. And the syringe clearly shows the markings.
        Watch your pet for symptoms such as lethargy, no appetite, tremors. Otherwise, ivermectin is safe to use for demodex mange and sarcoptic mange.

      • It depends what strength ivomec solution you are using as ivomec is not formulated for dogs. You must specify what % solution you are using.

    • 1/10 of a cc per 10lb of body weight

    • 1/10 of a cc per 10 pounds of body wight .

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  10. When treating mange with Ivermectin, I was instructed to give it every other day, however I’ve noticed that some are dosing daily.

    Which is recommended?

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  12. My puppy was just diagnosed with demodectic mange. He is taking .05 ml of Ivermectin orally, daily, getting weekly mitaban baths, and is on a course of antibiotics. It seemed like an aggressive course at first, but I understand why as it is just barely warding off the mites from spreading all over him. Poor guy is already covered and itchy. We did find a Hot Spot spray at the pet supply store, which is a tincture of chamomile, tea tree oil, and aloe vera.

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  14. After a lot of research I purchased a tube of Bimectin from the local farm store. This is horse dewormer which has ivermectin in the ingredients. I gave my 40 pound bulldog a pea sized bit of the cream orally (just stuck my finger in her mouth as far back as I could reach and smeared it on her tongue – tastes really bad I read). I gave her this every other day for 30 days. I smeared some on the spots as well. She is 1 year old and had localized demo. mange. It was not itchy and there were no secondary infections. Her hair has now grown back and there has been no recurrence. This treatment can kill dogs of the herding variety. I first tested my dog with just a little bit to see if there would be any reaction overnight.

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  17. We adopted a 3 mo old dachshund, and she was diagnosed with demodex. We had her on oral ivermectin for one month, and no results. We took her back to the vet for her check-up, and they readjusted the amount based on her body weight. We are going to the vet today to do another monthly follow-up, and while she still has a few “pimple like bumps” that come and go, she has grown back most of her hair in this last month, and is a lot less irritated by the mange. I personally feel that ivermectin works, but the key is finding the correct dose amount based on weight. I am sure she still has mange, but the symptoms have greatly subsided. We will probably be battling this for the next few months, but she is worth all the effort, and every penny.

  18. my year old chihuahua suffers from demodectic mange…everytime she has a flare up the vet puts her back in the ivomec which works for her..she went from a totally bald dog to having hair again…but every now and then she has a flare up..my vet visits are very costly for a 7cc bottle of ivomectin which cost 14.00, i end up with a 150 vet bill…(office visit, skin scrapings, etc etc.)..my question is i buy the ivomec from an animal supply store is the injectable ivomec the same as the ivomec that i would give her orally???

    • You can get a 50ml bottle or 50cc bottle on Amazon for about 32 dollars. 1% ivomec. 1 ML for a 100 dog with mange. Some say everyday for a month. Some are saying every other day, and some are saying once every 2 weeks for 4 weeks.

  19. Yes the 1 percent injectable ivomec is the same the ivomec you give orally 1/10 of a cc per 10 pounds of body weight..

  20. okay one more question..if i were to buy a bottle of 1% ivomectin injectable for cattle/swine..do i need to dilute the ivomec or just continue giving her the dosage my vet had her on .18cc with the original strength of ivomectin that is in the bottle??

    • If you buy a bottle you don’t have to dilute it they make one for sheep and goats that is a little weaker and as a beginner you have less chance to over dose your dog,but if you give you baby 1/10 of a cc you will not over dose her it is the something your vet was using just treat her like he did .

    • Is the sheep/goat solution the same as the ivomec 1%, because I think the sheep/goat solution is a “pour on” solution, which is completely different than the injectible ivomec 1%. The sheep/goat solution is a WEAKER solution and you just need to read the directions that come with the product. It will tell you how much to use PER WEIGHT.

      Now point one eight is just about two tenths of a cc. how much does your dog weigh? If your dog weighs 18 pounds, then it should take .18 of a cc. But, if your dog weighs 10 pounds, then it would get one tenth of a cc (or ml. whatever your syringe says).

      and i read on a cat forum to give it to the cat between the shoulder blades instead of orally, so now I give it to my dogs on their backs between their shoulder blades and i rub it into their skin really good, as the injectible does upset their stomachs. i rub it all the way down their back really good and hard, so most of the med gets into their skin and into their bloodstream. injection is too painful.

    • How often did you give your dog the ivermec? Daily or weekly? Did you use a 1ml syringe? So if I give my 20 lb do .2 ml is it daily or weekly?

  21. she is a year old..if i giver her the .18cc of the sheep/goat solution that is safe?? thanks for your help…

    • Yes it is safe but keep in mind I am not a vet or I am a trainer ,If it wasn’t safe I would not give you advice on how to use it.!!!

  22. Randy i believe you are right..i have not been able to find any ivomec that is for sheep/goats..only cows/swine…so i will use the cow/swine ivomec injectible orally…1/10cc…that sounds right..i am sorry to be such a pain, just trying to make sure i do this correctly…i appreciate all the help/advice

    • I posted a link for you to were yu can buy it but I use the 1 percent injectable for heart worms never owned a dog with skin problems most of the time when ppl can’t find something ,I send them to the link I posted.

  23. thank you Billy..i appreciate it..

  24. Has anyone heard that a heart worm test has to be performed before administering Ivomec for mange in adult dogs? I have 4 adults & 4 pups, GSD’s. My vet is telling me that I have to get all the adults tested for heart worm before giving Ivomec injections, as to give an Ivomec injection if they have heart worm would be fatal. Anyone know anything about this?

  25. Yes a heart worm test MUST be done if they have heart worms or treating them with Ivomec could kill them evening with any heart worm prevention a heart worm test must be done on your dogs if not you stand a good chanc eof killing your dogs with any kind of treatment.

    • That is not true. Ivomec kills only the eggs. Not the adult heart worm. You can look at the vet books. No chance of killing dog because of heart worm infestation. But I did hear will always test negative for heart worm after ivomec so it is a good idea to get tested previously.

      • You are correct about Ivermectin NOT killing ADULT Heartworms. It will kill the microfilaiae, and prevent the dog from remaining “contagious”–being bitten by a mosquito and passing it to other dogs. The dog would continue to have heartworms, causing some amount of heart disease for probably two years IF using Ivermectin.
        Ivermectin does not kill adult heartworms.
        Ivermectin does shorten the lifespan of adult heartworms.
        Ivermectin does sterilize adult heartworms.
        Ivermectin does kill microfilaria (keeping the dog from being a source of contagion)
        Ivermectin does kill L3 and L4 larvae (preventing new infections).
        http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=610

  26. I was under the impression that ivomec was used in the treatment of heart worm?

  27. I am fostering a shelter dog who has mange that is slightly on his back, neck and head.
    It is a small chihuahua 10 pounds. I received Ivomec from the shelter and this is what they prescribed.
    Day 1&2 0.05 ml
    Day 3&4 0.1ml
    Day 5&6 0.15 ml
    Day 7&8 0.2 ml

    I am concerned after reading this forum this might be too much for this little guy.
    I also started him tonight with 1/3 Listerine (original), 1/3 baby oil, and 1/3 water and apply (or spray) on him from head to toe. Heard this will help him topically without using chemicals.

    • Kc, Yes, the shelter has gave you the correct dosage. They build it up gradually till you are giving 0.2ml for every 10lbs your dog weighs. People must remember that it is important to get the correct dosage and understand how to measure it.

    • how long are you supposed to give the dog the Ivomec? how many days or months? also is this an injectible or oral? I have a 7lb. yorkie and I’m desperate! thank you.

  28. Someone dropped off 2 five week old puppies at my house and they have mange. I have bathed them well and will care for them and get them homes. But I need to get rid of the mange on them. They are full of worms and they are being treated for that. They don’t weigh but 3 pounds each. I am out of money to take them to the vet for treatment. Any suggestions for them? They are so tiny, that I don’t want to harm them with strong drugs. Puppies are on my pinterest http://pinterest.com/jeansongwinds/ under puppies needing help.

  29. I have a Doberman, she is almost 3 years old, we have been having issues with Demodex Since she was a puppy. we picked her up at 8 weeks of age, early because her mum was bitten by a brown snake. since taking here home the denodex mite appearances have been further apart for example it has been six months since her last episode (however I have just noticed last night the little thin patches of hair… that first sign that we all hate!) she is booked in to see the vet yet AGAIN! I have tried her on several different foods including EVO (which is Extremely expensive here in Australia and only sold by one pet shop which i would rather not support) I have also had her on Biotic plus which is supposed to support the immune system and yet still.. more mites. I have tried the Borax/peroxide treatment, Borax/apple cider vinegar, feeding flaxseed oil, fortnightly ivermectin injections, daily ivermectin orally and advocate. I am running at aloss of what to try with her, the Ivermectin gets rid of the mites each time but it just comes back later down the track, she has been checked for any other health problems and seems ok and has been spayed at 6 months old. Any other treatment ideas would be great! I have an appointment with the usual vet tomorrow.

    • worried about our 7month old pitbull attack by demodex mange…any idea? seams weekly ivermectin injection did not work…:(

      • someone on the net told me that with demodex, you need to build their immunity up by actually cooking for the dog and feeding them very well. Also, you must bath the dog with WARM water. Not sure what type of shampoo but you have to clean those hair follicles really well, so she suggested lots of warm warm water to flow through the hair follicles. There could be another thing going on with the dog that causes his immunity to go down and the mites to develop, so maybe have him checked with other health conditions that you can work on. What does the vet say?

      • Some breeds are pre-disposed to demodectic mange. PITS, and other bully breeds especially. Most puppies that get it will outgrow it when their immune system matures–so a vet will tell you. I never waited. Don’t know if you found your answer, but with out first we did the expensive vet treatments, putting salve in their eyes to protect their eyes, then scrubbing the mange with a brush to remove the wax, then applying medicine.
        Try this: 2 cups 3% (not 1%) Hydrogen peroxide + 1/4 cup Borax.
        The peroxide eats the wax off the pores (the mange seal themselves in). And the Borax will kill them. Apply this mixture over the entire body–even in the ears (or use ear mite medicine), every 2-4 days. You will notice a difference in hair growth in a week. The redness will fade, the itching will ease, and the hair will start to grow back.

  30. regarding the chichuahua with mange and the dosage that the shelter gave you: is that orally or an injection? and what kind of ivermectin is it exactly (brand and concentration). thank you.

    • okay, chihuahuas are very very small. And ivermectin is sold for cattle weighing a tremendous amount, so you have to be very very careful adminstering ivermectin to animals that weigh under 10 pounds. The injectible ivermectin can be given to the dog orally. Just squirt to the top of mouth quickly. The dosage for a 10 pound animal is only ONE TENTH OF A MILILITER. That’s a very small amount of iver. Don’t inject the dog, as it is too painful and also you really need to know how to inject properly and it’s just too painful, etc.
      It’s 1% ivermectin, I think made by merial, comes in a brown box. they sell it in 50 ml bottles or higher.
      collies cannot take ivermectin as it crosses their blood brain barrier.
      it is a genetic defect they have. same with hearding breed dogs.
      check for signs of toxicity, like lethargy, tremors, dilated pupils, not eating, etc.

  31. Never cook their dog food .the demodex mite lives off of yeast feed a raw diet or grain free diet ,The shampoo to use is Derma Pet it is a soapless shampoo with benzoyl peroxide in it to flush out the hair folics,I had one boxer with a Tooth abscess and that caused his immune system to drop also their is is a Vitamin made my Pet Naturals of Vermont Immune Support for Pets it works great .

    • Well, she actually cooked the vegetables and meat and she cured several rescue dogs of demodex. It is far better than feeding canned or kibble that’s been sitting on a store shelf for MONTHS. Thanks for the name of that shampoo, though, and the vitamins.
      Dogs need more than just raw meat, they need veggies, too, and you need to COOK THEM….!!!

      • I bet dogs built a fire in the wild and cooked their food ,and you buy a kibble that has a shelf life of no more than 6 months if you go to a feed store that sells a lot of dog food it rotates out very well.and you get fresh kibble.

  32. Cooking the dogs food cooks all the nutrition out of it ,and not only that it makes the bones brittle which can puncture the dogs stomach ,feed a total grain free dog food that has carbs. in it,like sweet potato with a chicken back to help clean their teeth ,Dogs feed them and know you don’t need to COOK them in the wild you think they built a fire to cook their food?Here is a diet that works great ,

    How to follow the BARF diet for your dog
    BASE THE DIET AROUND RAW MEATY BONES
    To support proper growth food must contain adequate protein, fat, energy, vitamins and minerals. Most of these come conveniently packaged in the form of raw meaty bones.
    As a simple rule of thumb your dog’s diet should be made up of from 60% to 80% raw meaty bones.
    Never feed cooked bones to your dog.
    They splinter and can cause fatal injury to the intestines. Similarly avoid chop bones – they have sharp angles that can perforate the gut.
    What sort of raw meaty bones?
    The best of these are chicken wings and chicken necks which provide high quality protein, a good balance of essential fatty acids and fat soluble vitamins, some B vitamins, and ample energy and all essential minerals.
    Other parts of the chicken such as the back, thigh and rib cage are also good.
    Because they are derived from very young animals, chicken bones are lower in toxins than meat from other species which are generally much older at slaughter.
    They are also soft enough for puppies to tackle (I beat them up with a mallet to make it even easier for very young pups).
    Other useful meaty bones, especially for older dogs, include pigs’ feet, ox tail, meaty ribs, kangaroo tail, and lamb shanks. Avoid very fatty meats such as lamb off-cuts, flaps and pig belly. Trim excessive fats from other meats.
    What raw meaty bones provide
    The bone marrow is a particularly good source of iron to build up the blood and immune system.
    The bone itself is a great, perfectly balanced source of other minerals, especially calcium and phosphorous. On a proper BARF diet there is no need for artificial calcium supplementation, even in larger breeds of dogs.
    Despite some of the B vitamins being in short supply in raw meaty bones, dogs raised on them and little else still do better than those fed on the best of the supposedly complete and balanced commercial dog foods.
    Alleviating boredom
    I find it very useful to provide the meaty bone part of the diet to my dogs whenever I need to leave them for a period of time. Gnawing at a bone provides useful and rewarding entertainment and can alleviate loneliness and boredom, thus circumventing possible destructive behavior.
    Clean the teeth and gums
    Gnawing on a bone is the doggy equivalent of brushing your teeth! Dogs that get raw meaty bones regularly have beautiful healthy teeth and gums and sweet smelling breath. They also enjoy better health.
    Won’t they give my dog parasites?
    While some parasites (especially tapeworms) can infect dogs through larval stages present in uncooked meat, veterinarians who have trialed the BARF diet for dogs report negligible associated parasite problems.
    Most parasites passed on this way are detected at the abattoir when the carcass is inspected. Further, responsible dog owners routinely worm their pets every 3 months using a “complete” wormer anyway, which would prevent such parasites becoming established.

    The Other Part of the Diet
    The other 20% to 40% of the diet should be drawn from as wide a variety of foods as possible. Remember, dogs are basically omnivorous so need vegetable as well as meat in their diet.
    Offal once or twice a week
    For the offal component of the diet, give raw liver, heart, kidney or brains once or twice a week.

    Leftovers three to four times a week
    The more different foods you feed your dog, the healthier he will be, including some dairy products and plenty of vegetables.
    I’ve heard a lot of nonsense about the dangers of feeding leftovers to dogs, like don’t let your dog eat onions, and adult dogs shouldn’t have dairy products!
    Nevertheless, normal leftovers (minus any cooked bones) containing these and other ingredients are a great supplement to the meaty bone diet, and very practical.
    Soup, pasta, cooked vegetables, raw vegetables (grated), cheese, yoghurt, rice, in fact any remains of wholesome home-cooked meals add to the variety of your dog’s diet (remember though – NO COOKED BONES!).
    I always cook a bit extra so there will be enough leftovers available.
    You notice the emphasis on home cooked. The object is to avoid all processed foods and those containing any preservatives or artificial colors or flavors.
    Also, don’t feed your dog too much fat!!!
    Doing so will not only make her fat and predisposed to diseases such as arthritis and diabetes, but can also lead to life-threatening pancreatitis.

    BARF diet for dogs recipe
    You can, of course, make up food especially for your dog.
    This recipe provides a high fiber, high energy meal to supplement the raw meaty bone component of the BARF diet for dogs.
    Though low in essential minerals and protein, that doesn’t matter because the raw meaty bones, given at other times of the week to complete the BARF diet, more than make up for that.
    In place of leftovers, up to 3 or 4 times a week, feed a mixture of:
    • 1 cup of soaked quick oats or cooked brown rice
    • 1 teaspoon “extra virgin” olive oil, or animal fat from the frying pan (in winter substitute cod liver oil once a week)
    • 2 desert spoons of grated fresh vegetables
    • 3 desert spoons of cooked, mashed vegetables
    • 1 egg or egg yolk
    • 2 teaspoon of home made Multivitamin Multimineral Supplement

    How much to feed the BARF diet for dogs
    A normal active dog needs from 2% to 3% of its body weight (BW) per day in food. So a 20 1b dog taken for a walk every day would need to eat 0.4 lb a day (2% BW). A 10 kg dog that was very active may need 300 gram (3% BW).
    The daily food requirement of growing puppies is closer to 10% of their body weight. For pups under 3 months it is best to feed a low lactose milk though, to avoid the risk of cataracts developing.
    For lactating bitches, it is 6% to 10% of body weight, depending on litter size and puppy age.
    Obviously, the more puppies in the litter, and the older they are, the more they will draw from the bitch and the more she will need to be fed to keep up!
    How often to feed the BARF diet for dogs
    Growing puppies and lactating bitches should be fed the BARF diet for dogs two to three times a day. Adult dogs can easily get by on one to two feeds a day.
    To simulate a BARF diet for dogs, it is also wise to let your adult dog (as long as it is not growing, ill, pregnant or lactating) go without food for 24 hours every week or so.
    This small fast simulates conditions natural to your dogs’ ancestors, and is good for health as it rests the gut.

  33. Really good post, Billy. I am going to copy it and refer to it in the future. Thanks again.

  34. Your welcome Randy ,I have been show and breeding for 4 decades ,I have seen it all always glad to help.

  35. Hey There. I discovered your blog the use of msn. This is a very smartly written article.
    I will make sure to bookmark it and come back to learn more of your useful information.
    Thank you for the post. I will certainly comeback.

    • You all are very welcome ,I am always glad to help follow pet owners and those in need of a mentor ,I don’t know everything because I am not a vet . But if I don’t know the answer ,I belong to a very elite group of dedicated breeders ,I can find the answer for you through them..

  36. Maybe you can help me understand some things. I got a dog through my work last month. I work in a kennel for pedigree puppies. I was given an English bulldog diagnosed with generlaized demised mange. When I took him him he had no fur left on his face, it spread all the way to his front paws. I studied up online and asked my vet techs at work to try and get some answers. I bought ivermectin on my vets advice and was told he was getting a shot every day. 0.2 mils for his body weight at the time. I bought. medicatedshampoo, itch relief spray made with aloe Vera between baths and switched his didst to grain free food.

  37. I posted that last one too early lol. I read online that mange mites feed off the grain found in so much dog food so I changed his diet around. I’ve had him for two months now and he’s had daily shots of ivermectin, weekly medicated baths, and grain free food. I have seen such a big difference. He has hair on his face and he isn’t red at all. My biggest question is that scabs keep popping up. He doesn’t bite or scratch himself anymore so I was wondering what else could cause the. scanning. I use a topical hydrocordizone cream on theses spots, but I’m still curious as to why they happen

  38. You need to put him on antibiotics for secondary infection.like k-flex penicillin to help with the bumbs which is a secondary infection cause by the infected hair frolic.,DO NOT USE topical hydrocordizone cream .it could harm him.

  39. I’m a vet tech who is dealing with demodex on my bull terrier we are treating her with ivomec orally a daily dose and a natural lotion called derm magic applied daily is very soothing and is helping her hair grow back we have had great reviews from our clients on the derm magic lotion hope this helps P.S please don’t do the Listerine, baby oil,water treatment some sites recommend all it does it burn and cause more issue’s trust me the old owners of my bull terrier tried this treatment poor thing looked like a hairless rat when I adopted her she still runs and hides when I use mouth wash please consult a vet before trying odd ball treatments

  40. I believe a dog we adopted was breathing in the urine and feces that was drying in the dusty dirt of her run. Or also it was rubbing into her neck area as she was on a tie up. Her owners were fined by the ASPCA and she had a skin scraping,was treated for mange with Invermectin injection 1 ML and had a cream they applied all over daily….before we got her…I feel that we did nothing different to her then keep her are on cushions, newspaper and wood deck. We did not treat her at all.She slowly but constantly did away with all the variety of bumps throughout her skin…..

  41. Our 2 year old bulldog was just diagnosed with demodectic mange. The vet sent us home with oral ivermectin to be given for 14 days. The fist 6 dosages increased by a small amount. The final 8 are 2.5 ml. each. ( the ivermectin was sent home in syringes all ready drawn up) I have been reading the blogs and 2.5 ml. sounds like a large dose for a 61 lb. dog over the next 8 days. Help PLEASE!! We would never forgive ourselves if we did something to harm our boy.

    • It depends on the percentage of ivermectin you are using. Are you using 1% ivermectin? If so, for a 61 lb. dog, you would dose about .6 of a ml. or a little more, about .7 (almost one milliliter). Even if you dosed at double that dosage, it would be 1.4 ml. So, yeah, 2.5 ml. is alot “if” you are using the 1% ivermectin.
      You need to call your vet and discuss. There is an ivermectin out there that is less of a percentage, and if you are using that kind, you would dose higher.
      I give my dog almost a milliliter, and she weighs 60, but I don’t dose her often.

      • Thanks for the reply, we Weill check with the Vet. We don’t think our boys is responding well on the Ivermectin, shakes, and seems so tired, just not like himself. Again Thanks for your help and support.

  42. Definitely take him back to the vet. There is a reason he has demodex mange. Usually, it is a problem with his immunity. He should not be shaking and ivermectin will make him a bit tired, too. Try feeding him better. Look on the net for a really healthy diet and some supplements, too. Try the borax and hydrogen peroxide baths, too. Or bath him in warm water with a shampoo that is geared toward demodex mange, i think it is called benzyl peroxide shampoo. try to wash the mites out of his hair follicles.

  43. My dog is 50lbs and her max dose was 0.9mls we started off at 0.4mls daily and worked our way up until she had 2 neg skin scraps then cont 1 mth after last scrap I never recommend treating on your own always consult a vet first because there’s more than one kind of mange mite and without proper diagnosis you can do more harm then good thnx good luck

  44. Thank u HEATHER very much

  45. I used the injectable orally daily for 6 mths saki didn’t suffer any ill effects

  46. Way cool! Some very valid points! I appreciate you penning this post and also the
    rest of the site is very good.

  47. My puppy has had oral invermectin for the last 8 weeks and has recovered amazing he is on his last 2 weeks just to be sure bye he has been fine . He is my world and i would do nothing to upset him but it ford make him tired so give him it around 7 and he sleeps it off i would definitely recommend it in the long run it is for his benefit x

  48. I did a lot of research and the result was that I bought a tube of Bimectin horse dewormer for ten bucks. I treated my olde English bulldogge with a pea sized drop every day for 30 days. The result was that her mange slowly disappeared and she has not had a recurrence in 2 years. The down side is that it could kill a herding breed such as border collie. You can also rub it topically on the spots if there aren’t too many and I did that as well. I will qualify this entry with the fact that I did not get a vet diagnoses. I diagnosed it as dem. mange myself.

    • I would also like to mention that I tried the borax and hydrogen peroxide mixture several times and it didn’t work for my bully.

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